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Haldin Darconis
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(2/8/02 9:57:09 pm)
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Akhevan Translations -- Looking for more info!
The Temariel Vex drops off of the Altar Priest in Akheva Ruins. It looks like a book, and is a quite nice range slot item.

I cast Identify on it, and it ID'd as the "Heart of Knowledge". I have looked far and wide, but I have not found anything that needs such a thing... I am posting this in the hopes that someone out there might be looking for the Heart of Knowledge and needs to know where it is. Also, I am just curious.

Thanks,
Haldin Darconis
Knight of Brell

(Edited to add Akevan Translations to subject)

Edited by: Haldin Darconis at: 2/19/02 12:54:02 pm
Kage Nomad 
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(2/8/02 11:02:26 pm)
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Re: Temariel Vex -- "Heart of Knowledge"
Vex Xi Vius off Itrear Vius, also a ranged item, identifies and Heart of Darkness, incidently.

Javan Transient
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(2/9/02 9:44:32 am)
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Re: Temariel Vex -- "Heart of Knowledge"
Hmm, so could we infer that "Vex" means Heart, "Temariel" means Knowledge and "Xi Vius" means Darkness?

Makes sense as the Xi Vius mobs are rather dark figures, most being "shadow"knights.

Any clue on the meaning of Thal? Just curious as to what Vex Thal is the "heart of"

realmsunbound
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(2/9/02 9:58:07 am)
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Re: Temariel Vex -- "Heart of Knowledge"
shadow i believe

Schezar
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(2/9/02 10:01:43 am)
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Re: Temariel Vex -- "Heart of Knowledge"
Vex... oh jinkies, if there's 10 of these I'd lay odds on these being the 'silver' links.

Haldin Darconis
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(2/9/02 11:52:35 am)
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Re: Temariel Vex -- "Heart of Knowledge"
Let's start translating Akhevan!

So, Vex is Heart. Tamariel is Knowledge. Xi Vius is Darkness (or Shadow). Itrear Vius... Hmm, Black?... Complete Darkness?

Please, anyone else out there who has an item that is named in Akhevan ID it so that we can figure out this language... Who knows, maybe if we can ask the corrupted remains about Vex Thal in common instead of Akhevan, he will answer some questions?


Haldin Darconis

Kelarniv Mistweb
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(2/9/02 12:16:19 pm)
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Re: Temariel Vex -- "Heart of Knowledge"
Akuel xi ans Vius = Gift of the Dark
Ans Xundrau xi Tekar = The weapon of mortal death
Kel Xundrau xi Tekar = A weapon of mortal death
Kel Xundrau xi Xauninae = A weapon of Luclin

So we have, so far-

Vex = Heart
Tamariel = Knowledge
Vius = Dark, Darkness
Akuel = Gift
Xi = Of
Ans = The
Kel = A
Xundrau = Weapon
Tekar = Mortal Death, probably one word in Whisperling/Akhevan.
Xauninae = Luclin

Makes alot of sense so far. I'll be looking for Ans Vex Xauninae :P.

Lleauaric
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(2/9/02 1:01:58 pm)
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Re: Temariel Vex -- "Heart of Knowledge"
so is Thal the name of the race?

Vex Thal? heart of Akhevans?

Haldin Darconis
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(2/9/02 1:24:18 pm)
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Re: Temariel Vex -- "Heart of Knowledge" -- Akheva
Okay. The "Xi Vius" guys are named "Of Darkness"... kinda creepy.

Itraer probably is Master, or Lord. Dark Master, or Dark Lord. Seems fitting.

I'm at work right now, but I'm going to check my logs for all the things that have been said upon death when I get home. I know that many of these guys says something in Akhevan when dying, and hopefully we'll be able to translate some more.

Does anyone out there have the "Wito Xi Tetoracu" from the Itraer? That has two words we have not seen yet.
There is also the "Collar of Tavuel Xakreum".. I just wonder why half of it is in common.
Next time I get an Akuel xi ans Vius, I'll ID it. Right now it's <something> Of the darkness. We'll see what Akuel means.

We also can look into the differnent names of mobs--
Xi Thall
Xi Thall Centien
Xi Xaui
... All of these guys are "Of <something>". The Vius ones are Sk's and necros.

Shei Vinitras
Va'Dyn
Centi Dator
Centi Atulus

I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but that's all I can think of right now.

Haldin Darconis

Popplo
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(2/9/02 2:52:00 pm)
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Re: Temariel Vex -- "Heart of Knowledge" -- Akheva
Whats the stats on the item the alter priest drops?

Haldin Darconis
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(2/9/02 2:55:37 pm)
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Re: Temariel Vex -- "Heart of Knowledge" -- Akheva
The stats are:
LORE ITEM MAGIC ITEM NO DROP
Wis: +10 Magic Resist: +5 Fire Resist: +5 Cold Resist: +5 Poison Resist: +5 Disease Resist: +5 HP: +50 Mana: +50
Weight: 4.5
Classes: Warrior Rogue Monk Bard Shadowknight Paladin Cleric Druid Shaman Ranger Beastlord
Races: All Races
Inventory Slot: Ranged Weapon


www.allakhazam.com/db/ite...?item=8131

Solmancer 
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(2/9/02 3:00:32 pm)
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Well, didn't expect this. :)
Might as well put my two bits in as far as Akhevan translations go. Though I've got a couple questions: where did you hear about what Kel, Xauninae, Tekar, and Xundrau mean? Is that from ID'ing those I assume? If so, that explains why I'm clueless on a number of these words meanings, let alone how they were obtained. ;) So here's my list of contributions, and a big dissertation following it. The question marks indicate my personal opinion about what it means, and isn't confirmed by anyone but me. :p

Xakra - shade; just seems to make sense given the larva, though "Xakra Kel" armor puts a dint into that being a possible meaning
Itraer - Greater; somewhat superlative, imo
Xua ane matarun - "I have fallen" (?) -- (death message from Xin Thall Centien)
Centien - Priest (see below on why)

Itraer I believe 'should' mean "Greater", given the names of mobs from certain, leaked Vex Thal screenies from An_Anonymous_PersonXX. (Itraer Liako Xin Thall, etc.)
There are also "Greater Akheva", according to the bane weapon that drops from Shei Vinitras, which is what convinced me about the meaning. It makes sense, also, given the type of mob the Itraer Vius is (a special lookin shade). So basically, "The Greater Dark", though why it's "The Itraer Vius" versus "Ans Itraer Vius", is beyond me.

Also, I'd say Tekar would be better off listed as "Mortality", versus Mortal Death, but that's just me quibbling.

Also, Xi and Xin are different. Whether Verant simply typoed with mobs such as Xin Thall Centien in Maiden's, I don't know, but currently everything means something, if you don't account for that possibility of extra letter(s) in names, or transposition (Xandrau and Xundrau, for instance)

"Centien" meaning Priest seems to stem from primarily how Xin Thall Centien behave. The good majority of them seem to be clerics, that I've encountered, and even though others are necromantic or shadowknights by nature, you could still argue they're priests to the power of shadow (Luclin?), similar to how Dark Elves are Necromancers and Clerics in servitude to Innoruuk, and Erudites to Cazic Thule.

There's also the matter of apostraphes. Some of the trap shades are called "Va Tatrua", and yet we have "The Va`Dyn", whatever both mean. I'm willing to bet Va is a preposition. Not forgetting, of course, Atulinae`Vius in Akheva Ruins. "Something`Dark", unless apostraphes change meaning completely.

Not forgetting several other words: Akelha, Ra, Aten, etc. Ra will likely mean sun, or light. Don't ask me why, I'm still putting together my suspicions about the nature of the Akheva and their relationship to Luclin herself.

Conclusion: If there was someone who made up the Akhevan language, and made it relatively logical as far as linguistics is concerned, AND put it in Vex Thal, and elsewhere for potential use by players.. neat :) Would be fun to have to learn Akhevan to get anywhere in Vex Thal.

Freon Sol
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(2/9/02 9:35:17 pm)
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Re: Well, didn't expect this. :)
Wito Xi Tetoracu (mask from vius)
Eye of twilight

Evisceros Headcutter 
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(2/10/02 2:39:36 am)
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Re: Well, didn't expect this. :)
Let's also not forget, of course, that Lumanes means Hail :)

hehe

Evisceros Headcutter 
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(2/10/02 6:27:28 am)
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Re: Well, didn't expect this. :)
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Edited by: Evisceros Headcutter  at: 2/10/02 7:19:09 pm
Gallux
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(2/10/02 6:58:36 am)
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Re: Well, didn't expect this. :)
Just summarised this back into one list. Do we have any other items that identify from Akheva or possible Maiden's Eye? I searched thru Magelo for each word to see if anything else was listed but came up with nothing.

Temariel Vex = Heart of Knowledge
Vex Xi Vius = The Heart of Darkness
Akuel xi ans Vius = Gift Of The Dark
Ans Xundrau xi Tekar = The Weapon Of Mortal Death
Kel Xundrau xi Tekar = A weapon Of Mortal Death
Kel Xundrau xi Xauninae = A Weapon Of Luclin
Wito Xi Tetoracu = Eye Of Twilight
Collar of Tavuel Xakreum = Collar of Tortured Spirits
Vereor Mask = Mask of Terror
Itraer Insignia = Symbol Of The Shadow

Akuel = Gift
Ans = The
Itraer = Shadow
Kel = A
Tavuel = Tortured
Temariel = Knowledge
Tetoracu = Twilight
Tekar = Mortal Death
Vereor = Terror
Vex = Heart
Vius = Darkness
Wito = Eye
Xi = Of
Xakreum = Spirits
Xauninae = Luclin
Xundrau = Weapon

Updating the list as more people post.

Edited by: Gallux at: 2/10/02 8:57:38 am
Arafain 
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(2/10/02 7:38:14 am)
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Re: Well, didn't expect this. :)
Kind of interesting, especially considering the fact that so many mobs in luclin speak in Akheva.

Additional info:

Xin Thall Centien aggro msg: 'Tavuel tekar!'

Umbrous toiler death message: 'Grendal ix thula!'

both taken from memory. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to compile a list of all akhevan text strings.

-- Arafain

Yalum
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(2/10/02 7:41:04 am)
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ezSupporter
Re: Well, didn't expect this. :)
Forhal's Guantlets = "Forhal's Guantlets"

Well, it was worth a shot.

Evisceros Headcutter 
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(2/10/02 8:13:23 am)
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Re: Well, didn't expect this. :)
Collar of Tavuel Xakreum = Collar of Tortured Spirits

hrmm, Xakreum is plural for Xakra perhaps?

Evisceros Headcutter 
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(2/10/02 8:38:49 am)
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Re: Well, didn't expect this. :)
Vereor Mask = Mask of Terror

Evisceros Headcutter 
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(2/10/02 8:49:06 am)
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Re: Well, didn't expect this. :)
Itraer Insignia = Symbol of the Shadow

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